Unfortunately my family doesn't have a coat of arms.
My father's side is Portuguese, and his ancestors pretty much lived as peasants. My mother's side is Chinese, and they don't use heraldry.
Though on the exciting side, my uncle (on my mother's side) recently got his blood tested. Found out we are 83% related to Emperor Qin (Chin) of China.
Hmm, now to try and get the correct blazon for each of you.
WolvrNZ: Gules, a bendwise winged arrow or.
Bigman1103: Can't tell the colours, but if I make some up, it could be Azure, on a bend argent engrailed three roses gules.
BlazeitDavicus: Per fess sable and argent a lion rampant counterchanged.
LukerDuker123: Oh wow, so complicated. Cheating by looking up a variant on the web, I hazard it's Azure, a lymphad, sails furled, oars in action Or, flagged Gules, the masthead pennant Gules, on a chief Or, a dexter hand couped grasping a dagger point upwards Gules, and a cross-crosslet fitchy Gules.
If you want to learn about heraldry or play around with it, Drawshield.net is pretty good. For Bigman1103's semi-guessed arms, it emitted this image:
Finally, I asked my dad and yes, those arms at the top of the page with the anchor (Argent, an anchor sable with a ring azure) are indeed the family arms.
that looks amazing and I SO want that to be my new coat of arms!
Note: I google around a little more and I found that some common colors were white, gold, and blue. So it would be Or, on a bend azure engrailed three roses argent.
I'm not sure, i come from a family line called the the black Brainerds.
We have an incredibly mixed heritage.
I'm just as much native american/African american as i am German and Scottish.
There has got to be something somewhere.
Could someone perhaps help me find some past family members?
It has been rumored in my family that my family name was the inspiration for the name of Brainerd,Minnesota.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brainerd
Hmm, this looks about right.
Or, perhaps my family started with Daniel Brainerd.
Or, perhaps i can find something on my grandmother's side.(Her name was Rita
Spoerl. She is German.
Very neat! If you can create a decent rendition of that cross in monochrome 14x14 px (16x16 with a 1px border), you can have that as your in-game/in-forum arms. :D
In the meantime, I've drawn our family CoA (father's side) in vector graphics, because the one in my first post isn't of very great quality. This is the result:
Also, I came up with this - I hope I'm not dishonouring my family or something :P
I think you're fine - putting shields within arms is a fairly common practice. I don't know if having it held by a figure in the arms is something that's ever been done, but it doesn't strike me as unreasonable.
I'm just not sure what it does to the rules of honour (dexter being "more honourable" than sinister, and all that). Maybe my mother's family wouldn't like it if my father's family's Wild Man uses them as a shield :D
Hey Zark I was wondering if you could put my family coat of arms in as well. My CoA is Or, on a bend azure engrailed three roses argent and all that is missing from the game is the three roses pattern, which I could draw myself as there is already a flower in-game (though my flowers would have to look different as they would have to be smaller so that three could fit nicely)
I have been attempting to draw out the roses for my CoA but I have had no success, partly because it is hard to get three of the roses I'm going for at the 16x16 resolution that Zark wanted earlier and partly because I have zero artistic talent/gimp knowledge whatsoever.
There isn't a chevron layout because it wouldn't be possible to then fit a charge into the chevron. Though come to think of it that doesn't apply for NPC factions. makes mental note
There isn't a chevron layout because it wouldn't be possible to then fit a charge into the chevron. Though come to think of it that doesn't apply for NPC factions. makes mental note
Hello everyone, i am back from the bowels of the internet and as my first post in months would like to but forth my own request for custom heraldry. As per Slimy's suggestion a while ago I have been able to tackle the three rose problem and so here is my best go at what my family Coat of Arms would look like in-game. So Zark if it isn't too much trouble it would be awesome if that could be my CoA's.
Agh, I can't quite get it to work like that, I'm afraid. The problem is that the layout you want scales down the charge to make it fit. So I can give you this diagonal band of three tiny roses, but they won't be nicely spread along the blue band, they'll be small and bunched up in the middle.
To change that I'd have to issue a game update - which I'm not fundamentally unwilling to do, but it has to be a more generic system than special-casing your particular arms. :)
Having my arms be unique doesn't bother me as it is pretty generic to begin with. However i wouldn't want you to push out a special update just for me unless other people would also be interested in a three diagonal charge pattern. Also i am not quite sure what you meant by scales down the charge so if you could clear that up for me maybe i could work on a new design that could make your life a little easier :)
EDIT: Also another thing i have noticed is that the bend azure engrailed in-game is very thick compared to the real life counterpart. Now obviously in-game this is because the large charges have to fit but for my purposes I was just wondering if it would make it any easier to produce the custom CoA's. I doubt it would but I thought I would just point it out.
EDIT 2: One last thing, is the dimension for the Coat of Arms still 16x16? I could exactly tell from your suggestion Zark but it looked like it was 32x32.
So all the graphics for coats of arms are 16x16. And charges specifically are 14x14, with a 1 pixel empty border.
For most coats of arms, the charges are about half the width and height of the entire image - so 14x14 pixels on a 32x32 image, for example. And this is how the images for the coats of arms are put together - it draws the background, and then the charge at a reduced size. This is fixed in the drawing code. So I can't tell the drawing system to use your triple roses on top of a bend without it automatically scaling them down.
Aerial Emperor
Anyone got an actual family coat of arms? Mine is probably this one:
No, not this one:
Nor this one, though I'm pretty pleased with how the artist managed to create a very Iron Man look using very traditional heraldic elements.
Aerial Emperor
And yes, if you find me your proper arms, I can totally be convinced to create you the relevant heraldic charge so you can recreate it in-game.
Commander, Engineering Corps
I think mine would be:
But Not sure, family immigrated to NZ back pre World War 1, and no one has kept any records of anything.
Captain
Here is the crest of my 12th great-grandfather Sir William Harris
Commodore
Wow...I'm...actually speechless...
Your family has quite the history
Captain
Yeah I was surprised too, I just learned about him sometime last year.
Able Airman
99% sure this is my family crest.
Commodore
Unfortunately my family doesn't have a coat of arms.
My father's side is Portuguese, and his ancestors pretty much lived as peasants. My mother's side is Chinese, and they don't use heraldry.
Though on the exciting side, my uncle (on my mother's side) recently got his blood tested. Found out we are 83% related to Emperor Qin (Chin) of China.
Midshipman
My mother's family crest
Aerial Emperor
Hmm, now to try and get the correct blazon for each of you.
If you want to learn about heraldry or play around with it, Drawshield.net is pretty good. For Bigman1103's semi-guessed arms, it emitted this image:
If you want to go deep, Project Gutenberg offers A Complete Guide to Heraldry, by Arthur Charles Fox-Davies.
Finally, I asked my dad and yes, those arms at the top of the page with the anchor (Argent, an anchor sable with a ring azure) are indeed the family arms.
Captain
that looks amazing and I SO want that to be my new coat of arms!
Note: I google around a little more and I found that some common colors were white, gold, and blue. So it would be Or, on a bend azure engrailed three roses argent.
Air Admiral
I'm not sure, i come from a family line called the the black Brainerds. We have an incredibly mixed heritage. I'm just as much native american/African american as i am German and Scottish. There has got to be something somewhere.
Air Admiral
Could someone perhaps help me find some past family members? It has been rumored in my family that my family name was the inspiration for the name of Brainerd,Minnesota. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brainerd Hmm, this looks about right.
Air Admiral
Or, perhaps my family started with Daniel Brainerd. Or, perhaps i can find something on my grandmother's side.(Her name was Rita Spoerl. She is German.
Lieutenant
I do, actually!
This is my family's coat of arms:
There are two other families with the same name, but from different places, and they both have variations of the same coat of arms:
Edit: I found another rendition of that second one:
Lieutenant
By the way, Zarkonnen, what's the story behind the arms in your forum avatar?
Lieutenant
Sorry about spamming this thread, but I find heraldry rather interesting :D
I did some digging and found the coat of arms of my mother's side of the family:
I remade it in svg and colour, this is the result:
Not as much fun as the wild man with his ripped-out tree of my father's side of the family, but still a nice coat of arms.
Lieutenant
Guess what! Another heraldry post by me.
I had some fun and drew my coats of arms Airships style!
Also, a version of the wild man with less colours:
And all of them in 32x32 resolution:
Aerial Emperor
Very neat! If you can create a decent rendition of that cross in monochrome 14x14 px (16x16 with a 1px border), you can have that as your in-game/in-forum arms. :D
Lieutenant
Heheh, I was afraid you'd say that. It's tricky, but I gave it a shot:
Edit: Ah, I've just noticed that you only mean the cross...
Here's a 14x14 version in two colours:
The cross was easier:
I played around with various methods of marshalling.
Party per cross:
Impaled:
Impaled/Dimidiated:
Aerial Emperor
Neat - do you know what this type of cross is called? I need to know how to file it, and then I can add it to your account.
Lieutenant
Here's the blazon in German:
I haven't really found anything for Gespaltenes Kreuz, apparently it's not very common.
For my father's side, it'll probably be this:
Aerial Emperor
Right, it is done! Enjoy your coat of arms. :D
Lieutenant
Awesome!
Thanks! :D
I see you've also gotten an update to yours :-)
In the meantime, I've drawn our family CoA (father's side) in vector graphics, because the one in my first post isn't of very great quality. This is the result:
Also, I came up with this - I hope I'm not dishonouring my family or something :P
Aerial Emperor
I think you're fine - putting shields within arms is a fairly common practice. I don't know if having it held by a figure in the arms is something that's ever been done, but it doesn't strike me as unreasonable.
Lieutenant
It doesn't seem to be too rare:
Here's an example
Another
Bears are people, too
I'm just not sure what it does to the rules of honour (dexter being "more honourable" than sinister, and all that). Maybe my mother's family wouldn't like it if my father's family's Wild Man uses them as a shield :D
Aerial Emperor
Nonono, you're fine. Remember - sexism!
Lieutenant
Hooray :P
Captain
Hey Zark I was wondering if you could put my family coat of arms in as well. My CoA is Or, on a bend azure engrailed three roses argent and all that is missing from the game is the three roses pattern, which I could draw myself as there is already a flower in-game (though my flowers would have to look different as they would have to be smaller so that three could fit nicely)
Thanks
Aerial Emperor
Hm, to do yours properly, I'd really have to add a "three X on bend" pattern. But yeah, we could cheat. :D
Captain
If it is too hard then don't worry about it but it would be cool to see, especially since my current CoA is so close to mine IRL.
Captain
I have been attempting to draw out the roses for my CoA but I have had no success, partly because it is hard to get three of the roses I'm going for at the 16x16 resolution that Zark wanted earlier and partly because I have zero artistic talent/gimp knowledge whatsoever.
Aerial Emperor
Yeah, I'm not convinced three roses can be sanely fit into 16x16 pixels.
Commodore
How's this:
Commodore
This is actually really cool. Must...find...way...to make...16x16 Winged Beaver...
Cabin Boy
Two crests from the families I'm from
Aerial Emperor
(Fixed up the image links for you.)
Hm, the first one would be totally plausible to make in Airships with a custom cockerel charge. Would you like a custom cockerel charge?
Commander
I think it would be neat.
Can't remember, is there a chevron pattern? I know there is a triangle.
Aerial Emperor
There isn't a chevron layout because it wouldn't be possible to then fit a charge into the chevron. Though come to think of it that doesn't apply for NPC factions. makes mental note
Also, I shall make you new arms. :D
Aerial Emperor
There isn't a chevron layout because it wouldn't be possible to then fit a charge into the chevron. Though come to think of it that doesn't apply for NPC factions. makes mental note
Also, I shall make you new arms. :D
Commander
My family's coat of arms is one of these, but I'm not sure which
Aerial Emperor
Hm, the Internet suggests that the top one is Irish and the bottom one is Scottish. Any idea which bit your family is more likely to be from?
Commander
They came from the border between Scotland and England so it's probably the bottom one. It's a shame though, as the Irish one is so much cooler.
Aerial Emperor
Yeah, I like the way the Irish one uses the arms as chevrons. I can set your coat of arms to the Scottish one though, if you'd like.
Commander
Yes please :D
Captain
Hello everyone, i am back from the bowels of the internet and as my first post in months would like to but forth my own request for custom heraldry. As per Slimy's suggestion a while ago I have been able to tackle the three rose problem and so here is my best go at what my family Coat of Arms would look like in-game. So Zark if it isn't too much trouble it would be awesome if that could be my CoA's.
Aerial Emperor
Agh, I can't quite get it to work like that, I'm afraid. The problem is that the layout you want scales down the charge to make it fit. So I can give you this diagonal band of three tiny roses, but they won't be nicely spread along the blue band, they'll be small and bunched up in the middle.
To change that I'd have to issue a game update - which I'm not fundamentally unwilling to do, but it has to be a more generic system than special-casing your particular arms. :)
Aerial Emperor
It would look like this, basically.
Captain
Having my arms be unique doesn't bother me as it is pretty generic to begin with. However i wouldn't want you to push out a special update just for me unless other people would also be interested in a three diagonal charge pattern. Also i am not quite sure what you meant by scales down the charge so if you could clear that up for me maybe i could work on a new design that could make your life a little easier :)
EDIT: Also another thing i have noticed is that the bend azure engrailed in-game is very thick compared to the real life counterpart. Now obviously in-game this is because the large charges have to fit but for my purposes I was just wondering if it would make it any easier to produce the custom CoA's. I doubt it would but I thought I would just point it out.
EDIT 2: One last thing, is the dimension for the Coat of Arms still 16x16? I could exactly tell from your suggestion Zark but it looked like it was 32x32.
Aerial Emperor
So all the graphics for coats of arms are 16x16. And charges specifically are 14x14, with a 1 pixel empty border.
For most coats of arms, the charges are about half the width and height of the entire image - so 14x14 pixels on a 32x32 image, for example. And this is how the images for the coats of arms are put together - it draws the background, and then the charge at a reduced size. This is fixed in the drawing code. So I can't tell the drawing system to use your triple roses on top of a bend without it automatically scaling them down.
Captain
Ok I get it now thanks for clearing that up.